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Nov. 27, 2013 7:54am Associated Press

BEIJING (AP) — China said Wednesday it monitored two unarmed U.S. bombers that flew over the East China Sea in defiance of Beijing’s declaration it is exercising greater military control over the area.

China monitors two American B 52 bomber flights over disputed islands
FILE – In this Sept. 2012 photo, the tiny islands in the East China Sea, called Senkaku in Japanese and Diaoyu in Chinese are seen. China said Wednesday, Nov. 27, 2013 it had monitored two unarmed U.S. bombers that flew over the East China Sea in defiance of Beijing’s declaration it was exercising greater military control over the area. Tuesday’s flight of the B-52 bombers underscored U.S. assertions that it will not comply with Chinese demands that aircraft flying through its newly declared maritime air defense zone identify themselves and accept Chinese instructions. (AP Photo/Kyodo News, File)
Tuesday’s flight of the B-52 bombers underscored U.S. assertions that it will not comply with Chinese demands that aircraft flying through its newly declared maritime air defense zone identify themselves and accept Chinese instructions.

A Chinese Defense Ministry statement Wednesday said the planes were detected and monitored as they flew through the zone for two hours and 22 minutes. It said all aircraft flying through the zone would be monitored, but made no mention of a threat to take “defensive emergency measures” against noncompliant aircraft that was included in an announcement on Saturday.

“China has the capability to exercise effective control over the relevant airspace,” said the brief statement, attributed to an unidentified ministry spokesman.

Asked repeatedly about the incident at a regularly scheduled briefing, Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang said it had been handled according to procedures laid out in the Saturday statement but offered no specifics.

“Different situations will be dealt with according to that statement,” Qin said.

The U.S. described the flights as a training mission and said they were not flown in response to China’s move to assert its claim of sovereignty over a group of uninhabited islands controlled by Japan. U.S. officials said the two B-52 bombers took off from their home base in Guam around midday and were in the zone that encompasses the disputed islands for less than an hour before returning to their base, adding the aircraft encountered no problems.

The bomber flights came after State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said China’s move appeared to be an attempt to change the status quo in the East China Sea.

“This will raise regional tensions and increase the risk of miscalculation, confrontation and accidents,” she told reporters.

The U.S., which has hundreds of military aircraft based in the region, has said it has no intention of complying with the new Chinese demands. Japan likewise has called the zone invalid, unenforceable and dangerous, while Taiwan and South Korea, both close to the U.S., also rejected it.

Australia also said it called in the Chinese ambassador to express concern about the sudden zone declaration.

“The timing and the manner of China’s announcement are unhelpful in light of current regional tensions, and will not contribute to regional stability,” Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop said in a statement.

Beijing’s move fits a pattern of putting teeth behind its territorial claims and is seen as potentially leading to dangerous encounters depending on how vigorously China enforces it — and how cautious it is when intercepting aircraft from Japan, the U.S. and other countries.

Chinese reaction to the bomber flights was predictably angry, with some recalling the 2001 collision between a Chinese fighter and a U.S. surveillance plane in international airspace off China’s southeastern coast — the kind of accident some fear China’s new policy could make more likely. The Chinese pilot, Wang Wei, was killed in the crash and the U.S. crew forced to make a landing on China’s Hainan island, where they were held for 10 days and repeatedly interrogated before being released.

“Let’s not repeat the humiliation of Wang Wei. Make good preparations to counterattack,” wrote Zheng Daojin, a reporter with the official Xinhua News Agency on his Twitter-like Weibo microblog.

Businessman Li Pengliang said the island dispute had heightened anti-Japanese sentiment, but doubted the chances of an open conflict.

“The public is outraged, but I still believe that the leaders in power are sober minded. They will not act on impulse,” Li said.

Still others criticized the government’s handling of what they termed a battle of psychological pressure and international public opinion. “China is terrible at telling its side of the story. The silent one is the loser so why don’t they better explain our response to the American bomber flight,” wrote Hu Xijin, editor of the nationalist tabloid Global Times, on his blog.

It wasn’t clear whether Beijing had anticipated the forceful response from Washington and others, or how well it is prepared to back up its demands.

Chinese scholars, who often serve as ad-hoc government spokesmen, criticized Tuesday’s flights as a crude show of force and said Beijing wasn’t looking for a fight.

“It’s not that China didn’t want to enforce its demands, but how do you expect China to react?” said Zhu Feng, an international security expert at Peking University.

China says it monitored U.S. B-52s that flew through its new air zone
By Jethro Mullen, CNN
November 28, 2013 -- Updated 0259 GMT (1059 HKT)

Source: CNN
The Chinese military says it identified the U.S. military aircraft
U.S. official: B-52s didn't tell Beijing about flights over China's new air defense zone
Washington and Tokyo have criticized Beijing's declaration of the new zone
They say it increases tensions and raises risks of an incident
Hong Kong (CNN) -- Tensions are running high in the skies between China and Japan -- and the United States is refusing to stay on the sidelines.
After Beijing upset the region by declaring a new air defense zone over a large part of the East China Sea, two unarmed U.S. B-52 bombers flew through the area in what the U.S. State Department said was a planned military exercise.
The U.S. aircraft ignored China's new demands that planes that fly through the zone identify themselves and submit flight plans to Chinese authorities -- despite Beijing's warnings that it could take military measures against aircraft that failed to comply.
The delicate situation is a test of how China's increasingly assertive approach beyond its borders will play out against the U.S. government's promise to focus more on Asia and uphold commitments to its allies.
China's airspace claim Beijing and Tokyo dispute over islands Amb. Kennedy: China undermining security Japanese airlines defy China's demands
"China is busy designing and implementing a bolder foreign policy in light of an anticipated U.S. decline," Stephanie Kleine-Ahlbrandt, director of Asia-Pacific programs at the U.S. Institute of Peace, writes in a commentary for this week.
The air zone declaration is a clear example of the new approach of Chinese President Xi Jinping, who has been in power for about a year, according to Kleine-Ahlbrandt.
"Unlike his predecessors, Xi is making foreign policy with the mindset of a great power, increasingly probing U.S. commitments to its allies in the region and exploiting opportunities to change the status quo," she says.
But for the time being, the U.S. government is standing its ground in the East China Sea.
READ: B-52s defy China's new air defense zone
War of words
The United States and Japan have criticized Beijing's air defense announcement, saying it escalates tensions in the region and raises the risk of an incident. They say they won't recognize the new zone.
China hit back at those comments with strong words of its own, describing the U.S. and Japanese statements as unreasonable and unacceptable.
After news of the U.S. flights emerged, the Chinese defense ministry responded cautiously Wednesday, saying it had monitored the planes' activity on the edge of the air defense zone. The statement held back from criticizing the U.S. action.
At a regular briefing later Wednesday, a journalist asked a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman if Beijing is concerned it will now be seen as a "paper tiger."
"I want to emphasize that the Chinese government has enough resolution and capability to safeguard the country's sovereignty and security," the spokesman, Qin Gang replied.
Simmering dispute
The bomber flights are the strongest American involvement yet in a festering territorial dispute in the region between China and Japan over a set of small, uninhabited islands in the East China Sea.
After China's air defense declaration Saturday, U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel reiterated American support for Japan, where thousands of U.S. troops are stationed as part of a security agreement.
He said the U.S. Japan Mutual Defense Treaty applies to the disputed islands, known as Senkaku by Japan and Diaoyu by China.
Uneasy encounters between Chinese and Japanese planes and ships have already taken place repeatedly over the past year near the islands, which are believed to have large oil reserves located near them.
Tensions spiked after the Japanese government purchased some of the islands from a private owner in September 2012, angering Chinese authorities, who saw the move as an attempt by Japan to tighten control.
Hagel warned that China's "unilateral action" of declaring the air defense zone "increases the risk of misunderstanding and miscalculations."
Amid the tensions, U.S. Vice President Joe Biden will visit the region next week on a previously announced trip, stopping in Tokyo, Beijing and Seoul, South Korea.
Why China's new air zone incensed Japan, U.S.
Difficult to monitor
The U.S. bomber flights Monday also highlight the challenges that analysts say China faces in policing its newly claimed air zone.
In its statement Wednesday, the Chinese defense ministry said that "China has the capability to exercise effective control" over the area.
"Beijing might have bitten off a bit more than they can chew because actually going out and monitoring these things on an ongoing basis is probably a bit beyond the capabilities of the Chinese air force right now," said Greg Waldron, Asia managing editor of FlightGlobal, an aviation and aerospace industry website.
"In a sense, it's more a rhetorical statement, as opposed to a realistic military space," Waldron said.
Adding to the complications and confusion surrounding the zone, Japan's two main commercial airlines said Wednesday that following a request from the Japanese government, they and other members of the Scheduled Airlines Association of Japan will not submit flight plans to Chinese authorities for flights through the zone claimed by Beijing.
The two carriers, Japan Airlines and All Nippon Airways, said the association had concluded that there would be "no impact" on the safety of passengers on board flights through the zone without the submission of flight plans to China.
But Waldron said he wasn't entirely sure about that. From a legal point of view, he said, the airlines probably don't have to report their plans and follow all the rules requested by China.
"I think from a safety perspective, it's a good idea for them to do so," Waldron said. "Just in case."
'The right of every country'
Since it declared the new air defense zone at the weekend, China has been busy making its case for why it feels the move was justified.
It has pointed out that other countries already operate air defense identification zones in waters around their territory, noting that Japan has had a zone in place in the East China Sea since the 1960s.
"It's natural, it's indeed the right of every country to defend its airspace and also to make sure that its territorial integrity, its sovereignty are safeguarded," China's U.N. Ambassador Liu Jieyi said Tuesday.
But analysts say that by declaring a zone that now overlaps with that of Japan, China has increased the likelihood of a high-risk incident in the air.
South Korea and Australia have also criticized the Chinese announcement.
The situation has remained tense around the islands over the past year. Japan has repeatedly scrambled fighter jets in response to Chinese government planes flying near the islands. And ships from the two countries regularly engage in high seas games of cat and mouse in waters around the islands.
China slams 'inappropriate' U.S. remarks on territorial dispute with Japan
Aircraft carrier on the move
On top of the already strained situation, China's military announced on its website early Wednesday that its navy's sole aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, was heading toward the South China Sea.
That's where China has had territorial disputes with other Asian nations including the Philippines and Vietnam.
The carrier, which was commissioned in September 2012 and first had aircraft leaving and landing on it two months later, set out from a shipyard in eastern China's Qingdao city on Tuesday morning, the military said on its website.
As with U.S. aircraft carriers, it doesn't travel alone: two guided missile destroyers and two guided missile frigates are accompanying the massive ship as part of its group.
The Chinese military makes no mention of the dispute with Japan and its ally, the United States. Rather, its website post notes that the carrier group's mission is to conduct training and tests.
But in order to get from Qingdao to the South China Sea, the aircraft carrier group has to first go through the East China Sea.
It remained unclear how close it would sail to the disputed islands.
"There are several possible courses for the voyage from Qingdao to the South China Sea and it is not clear which the Liaoning will take," the state-run newspaper China Daily reported Wednesday.
At the same time, U.S. and Japanese forces are due to hold joint naval exercises this week off Okinawa -- a few hundred kilometers from the disputed islands.
CNN's Barbara Starr, Greg Botelho, Madison Park, Steven Jiang, David McKenzie, Junko Ogura and Kevin Wang contributed to this report.

China's response to US B-52s in air zone 'too slow': media
(AFP) – 13 minutes ago
Beijing — China's response to US B-52 bombers in its newly-declared air zone was "too slow", state-run media said Thursday, fuelling a popular clamour for Beijing to get tough against Japan and the US.
Beijing's declaration of a new Air Defence Identification Zone (ADIZ) including Tokyo-administered islands at the centre of a tense dispute between the two neighbours has provoked global concern.
The US has a security alliance with Japan and announced that it had sent two US Stratofortress planes into the zone without obeying Beijing's rules, in an unmistakable message ahead of a visit to the region by Vice-President Joe Biden.
China's defence ministry issued a statement 11 hours later saying the military "monitored the entire process" of the B-52 flights, without expressing regret or anger or threatening direct action.
The Global Times, which is close to China's ruling Communist Party and often strikes a nationalist tone, criticised the reaction as "too slow" in an editorial Thursday.
"We failed in offering a timely and ideal response," it said, adding that Chinese officials needed to react to the "psychological battles" by the US.
The government-run China Daily added that Washington's move risked fuelling Tokyo's "dangerous belligerence" and putting China and the US "on a collision course. Which will prove much more hazardous than sending military aircraft to play chicken in the air".
China's Communist party uses nationalism as a key part of its claim to a right to rule, tapping into deep-seated popular resentment of Japan for its brutal invasion of China in the early 20th century.
Such passions are quickly aroused, and Chinese social media users called for Beijing to retaliate against Washington.
"The US's bomber wandered around the edge of our ADIZ, I figure we should respond in kind. One good turn deserves another, right?" wrote one poster on Sina Weibo, a Chinese version of Twitter.
Another said the bomber flights "can only be called a provocation".
One suggested that Beijing should cancel Biden's invitation, saying that if it "now announces that it was not the right time for Biden to visit China, would the US military still enter the ADIZ in the future as they like?"
The Chinese ADIZ requires aircraft to provide their flight plan, declare their nationality and maintain two-way radio communication, or face "defensive emergency measures".
The US and Japan accuse China of raising the stakes in the row over islands known as Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China, and senior administration officials in Washington said on Wednesday that Biden plans to raise Washington's "concerns" about the zone during his visit to Beijing next week.
The trip will allow him to "make the broader point that there's an emerging pattern of behaviour by China that is unsettling to China's own neighbours and raising questions about how China operates in international space," an official said.
China's new ADIZ also overlaps South Korea's zone, incorporating a disputed, submerged, Seoul-controlled rock, and the South Korean military said Thursday one of its planes had flown through it without informing Beijing.
Australia on Thursday refused to backdown from criticism of the new air zone after Canberra summoned China's ambassador earlier this week, prompting a furious response from Beijing.
The Philippines also voiced concern Thursday that China may extend control of air space over disputed areas of the South China Sea.
China for its part has accused the US and Japan -- which have both maintained ADIZs for years -- of double standards, and says the real provocateur is Tokyo.
The dispute lay dormant for decades but escalated in September 2012 when Tokyo purchased three of the uninhabited outcrops from private owners.
Beijing accused Tokyo of altering the status quo and has since sent surveillance ships and aircraft to the area as shows of force, prompting Japan to scramble fighter jets 386 times in the 12 months to September.
After an unidentified drone flew towards the islands, Tokyo threatened to shoot down such aircraft, which Beijing warned would amount to an "act of war".
The manoeuvres have raised fears of an accidental clash but both countries have strong commercial incentives to avoid conflict.
As the world's second- and third-largest economies, they share significant trade links.
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A Chinese fighter jet is displayed outside the Aviation Industry Corporation of China in Beijing on November 28, 2013, as the government comes under pressure to get tough against Japan and the US over disputed islands in the East China Sea (AFP, Mark Ralston)

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Two American B-52 bombers have flown over a disputed area of the East China Sea without informing Beijing, challenging China's claims to an expanded air defense zone (AFP/File, Roslan Rahman)

Defying China, U.S. bombers and Japanese planes fly through new air zone
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A group of disputed islands, Uotsuri island (top), Minamikojima (bottom) and Kitakojima, known as Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China is seen in the East China Sea, in this photo taken by Kyodo September 2012. REUTERS/Kyodo
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(Reuters) - Two unarmed U.S. B-52 bombers flew over disputed islands on a training mission in the East China Sea without informing Beijing while Japan's main airlines ignored Chinese authorities when their planes passed through a new airspace defense zone on Wednesday.

The defiance from Japan and its ally the United States over China's new identification rules raises the stakes in a territorial standoff between Beijing and Tokyo over the islands and challenges China to make the next move.

China published coordinates for an East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone over the weekend and warned it would take "defensive emergency measures" against aircraft that failed to identify themselves properly. The zone is about two thirds the size of Britain.

"If the United States conducts two or three more flights like this, China will be forced to respond. If China can only respond verbally it would be humiliating," said Sun Zhe, a professor at the Center for U.S.-China Relations at Tsinghua University in Beijing.

"The concept of the paper tiger is very important. All sides face it."

China's Defense Ministry said it had monitored the entire progress of the U.S. bombers through the zone on Tuesday Asian time. A Pentagon spokesman said the planes had neither been observed nor contacted by Chinese aircraft.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang, when asked how China would respond to future infractions of the zone, said the country would "make an appropriate response" that depended on the "situation and degree of threat".

Qin added that China had informed "relevant countries" before setting up the zone. He would not elaborate.

Following a request from the Japanese government, Japan Airlines and ANA Holdings said they stopped giving flight plans and other information to Chinese authorities on Wednesday. Neither airline had experienced any problems when passing through the zone, they added.

Japan's aviation industry association said it had concluded there was no threat to passenger safety by ignoring the Chinese demands, JAL said. Both JAL and ANA posted notices on their websites informing its passengers of their decision.

The flight by the B-52 bombers was part of a long-planned exercise, a U.S. military official said.

Some experts have said the Chinese move was aimed at chipping away at Tokyo's claim to administrative control over the area, including the tiny uninhabited islands known as the Senkaku in Japan and the Diaoyu in China.

The action might have backfired, said Brad Glosserman, executive director of the Honolulu-based Pacific Forum CSIS.

"This is confirming the darker view of China in Asia," Glosserman said. "The Chinese once again are proving to be their own worst enemy ... driving the U.S. closer to Japan and (South) Korea closer to the position of Tokyo as well."

U.S. Ambassador to Japan Caroline Kennedy, in her first speech since assuming her post earlier this month, criticized China's "unilateral action" as undermining regional security.

Kennedy also said Japan had shown "great restraint this past year" and urged Tokyo to continue to do so. "We encourage Japan to increase communication with its neighbors and continue to respond to regional challenges in a measured way."


The Chinese action was also likely to bolster support in Japan for hawkish Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's agenda to strengthen the military and loosen the limits of the post-war, pacifist constitution on its armed forces.

While Washington does not take a position on sovereignty over the islands, it recognizes that Tokyo has administrative control over them and it is therefore bound by treaty to defend Japan in the event of an armed conflict.

The B-52s, part of the Air Force fleet for more than half a century, are relatively slow compared with today's fighter jets and far easier to spot than stealth aircraft.

"We have conducted operations in the area of the Senkakus. We have continued to follow our normal procedures, which include not filing flight plans, not radioing ahead and not registering our frequencies," Pentagon spokesman Colonel Steve Warren said.

The dispute comes before a planned trip to the region by U.S. Vice-President Joe Biden, who is scheduled to travel to Japan next week and also has stops in China and South Korea.

Annual U.S.-Japan naval exercises are also taking place in waters off the Japanese islands of Okinawa and Kyushu, to the east of China's new zone. The drills, which involve the USS George Washington aircraft carrier, recently taking part in the Philippine typhoon relief effort, were planned before China's announcement of the zone.


The new Chinese rules mean aircraft have to report flight plans to China, maintain radio contact and reply promptly to identification inquiries and bear clear markings of their nationality and registration.

On Monday, civil aviation officials from Hong Kong and Taiwan said their carriers entering the zone must file flight plans. A transport ministry official in Seoul said South Korean planes would do the same.

Qantas Airways Ltd said on Wednesday its pilots would keep China informed of their flights through the area.

The United States and Japan have sharply criticized China's airspace declaration, prompting Beijing to lodge counter protests and warn Washington to stay out of the dispute.

An outspoken retired Chinese military figure, former Major General Luo Yuan, wrote on Tuesday that China should use force in the zone if needed, adding the United States especially had to comply or face the consequences. Some experts, however, questioned whether China had the military assets to fully implement the new measures.

While the zone is outside China's territorial airspace, the Chinese Defense Ministry has said its establishment had a sound legal basis and accorded with common international practices.

Other countries including the United States, Japan and South Korea have similar zones but only require aircraft to file flight plans and identify themselves if those planes intend to pass through national airspace.

In addition, China sent its sole aircraft carrier on a training mission for the first time into the oil- and gas-rich South China Sea on Tuesday, upsetting the Philippines.

China claims almost the entire South China Sea, conflicting with claims from Taiwan, Malaysia, Brunei, the Philippines and Vietnam.

(Additional reporting by Jeff Mason in California, David Alexander, Matt Spetalnick and Lesley Wroughton in Washington, Kiyoshi Takenaka in Tokyo, Ben Blanchard and Michael Martina in Beijing and Lincoln Feast in Sydney. Editing by Dean Yates and Nick Macfie)

After Challenges, China Appears to Backpedal on Air Zone

The disputed islands in the East China Sea are known as the Diaoyu by China and as the Senkaku by Japan.
Published: November 27, 2013

BEIJING — China has permitted rare street protests and sent armadas of fishing boats to show its growing national interest in a small string of islands in the East China Sea. Earlier this year, the Chinese military locked its radar on a Japanese navy vessel.

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Each step seemed like a measured escalation in the long-running territorial dispute, intended to press Japan to negotiate over jurisdiction of the islands. But they also seemed calibrated to avoid a sharp international backlash — or to raise expectations too high at home.

But by imposing a new air defense zone over the islands last weekend, Beijing may have miscalculated. It provoked a quick, pointed challenge from the United States, set off alarm bells among Asian neighbors and created a frenzy of nationalist expression inside China on hopes that the new leadership team in Beijing would push for a decisive resolution of the longstanding dispute.

On Wednesday, after the Pentagon sent two B-52 bombers defiantly cruising around China’s new air defense zone for more than two hours, Beijing appeared to backpedal. The overflights went unchallenged, and some civilian airlines ignored China’s new assertion of air rights.

“We will make corresponding responses according to different situations and how big the threat is,” the spokesman at the Foreign Ministry, Qin Gang, said when asked about China’s lack of enforcement against the American planes.

Under President Xi Jinping, China has suggested that it intends to make a more robust defense of its national interests, including in maritime disputes, to match its rising economic and military power. But even some Chinese analysts say they wonder if the new leadership team fully anticipated the response to the latest assertion of rights — or had in mind a clear Plan B if it met with strong resistance.

“I believe Xi Jinping and his associates must have predicted the substance of this reaction; whether they underestimated the details of the reaction, I’m not sure,” said Shi Yinhong, an occasional adviser to the government and a professor of international relations at Renmin University.

China does appear determined to escalate the issue of the uninhabited islands, known as Diaoyu in China and the Senkaku in Japan, as a way of forcing the Japanese to negotiate and give up control of territory that has symbolic and strategic value for both countries. In the long term, China has not tried to disguise its goal of weakening the alliance between the United States and Japan and supplanting the United States as the dominant naval power in the Western Pacific.

Beijing is especially frustrated that its previous, more cautious steps to convince Japan of the seriousness of its claim to the islands have not prompted Japan, which administers them, to negotiate in earnest.

“Japan always has the backing of the United States and shows unbelievable arrogance to the Chinese proposal to have talks on a bilateral basis,” said Zhu Feng, a professor of international relations at Beijing University and one of China’s more moderate voices on Japan. “Japan’s arrogance is unacceptable.”

But if China has been trying to drive a wedge between Washington and the Japanese government of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, their strategy seems to have backfired, at least for now.

The United States had for months seemed reluctant to get involved or take sides in a dispute that carries so much emotional weight for China. American officials complained that some Japanese leaders had made nationalist gestures that antagonized China, worsening the tensions. And the Obama administration dodged requests by Japanese leaders to take a clearer stance in their favor.

That hesitation seems to have largely vanished since China pronounced it was expanding its hold on the region’s airspace.

With the flyover by the B-52s, the United States has shown it is more willing to work with Japan in opposing China’s efforts to unilaterally force a change in the status quo, even if the United States still takes a neutral stance in the islands dispute itself. Hours after China declared its new air zone, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel reaffirmed that the United States would stand by its security treaty obligations to aid Japan if it was attacked.

Martin Fackler contributed reporting from Tokyo, and Choe Sang-Hun from Seoul, South Korea.
A version of this article appears in print on November 28, 2013, on page A14 of the New York edition with the headline: After Challenges, China Appears to Backpedal on Air Zone.

fter Challenges, China Appears to Backpedal on Air Zone
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Since Saturday, Japanese leaders have publicly emphasized the close coordination with Washington — largely to reassure their own population, which has felt growing anxiety over China’s increasingly assertive stance.

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On Wednesday in Tokyo, the defense minister, Itsunori Onodera, pledged in a phone call with Mr. Hagel to work closely with the United States military by sharing information and coordinating in the surveillance of Chinese activities in the East China Sea, Japan’s Defense Ministry said.

The new United States ambassador to Japan, Caroline Kennedy, said in her first speech since assuming her post, broadcast around the world on CNN, that China’s creation of the air defense zone “only serves to increase tensions in the region.”

The Chinese action also stirred the first official negative comments about China in South Korea since President Park Geun-hye took office this year and forged a closer relationship with Beijing. The coordinates of the air defense zone announced by China overlap with South Korea’s own air defense zone in some places and appear created to give China an edge in a separate maritime territorial dispute with South Korea.

“We see competition and conflict in the region deepening,” South Korea’s foreign minister, Yun Byung-se, said Wednesday. “Things can take a dramatic turn for the worse if territorial conflicts and historical issues are merged with nationalism.”

The announcement of the air defense zone may also have created problems at home for the leadership in China, where there are expectations among an increasingly nationalist population that the country can live up to its promise of standing up to Japan.

On Chinese social media, a barrage of commentary congratulated the government on the new air defense zone and warned that Beijing should make good on threats by the Defense Ministry that aircraft give notification or face military action.

“If the Chinese military doesn’t do anything about aircraft that don’t obey the commands to identify themselves in the zone, it will face international ridicule,” wrote Ni Fangliu, a historian and an investigative journalist, on his microblog, which has more than two million followers.

The Liberation Army Daily, the official newspaper of China’s military, said in a commentary published before the Chinese government acknowledged the B-52 flights that without strong enforcement, the zone would be just “armchair strategy.”

Despite the risks, Mr. Shi, the government adviser, said that proclaiming the air defense zone was important because it represented China’s first effort to expand its strategic space beyond offshore waters since the establishment of Communist China in 1949.

The response by the United States, he said, amounted to “a negative development for a strong great-power relationship” that China sought between the United States and China, but he added that the Chinese president was patient and strategic.

Martin Fackler contributed reporting from Tokyo, and Choe Sang-Hun from Seoul, South Korea.
A version of this article appears in print on November 28, 2013, on page A14 of the New York edition with the headline: After Challenges, China Appears to Backpedal on Air Zone.

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Two unarmed US B-52 bombers on a training mission flew over disputed islands in the East China Sea without informing Beijing, Pentagon officials said on Tuesday, defying China's declaration of a new airspace defense zone in the region.

The flight on Monday night did not prompt a response from China, and the White House on Tuesday urged Beijing to resolve its dispute with Japan over the islands diplomatically, without resorting to "threats or inflammatory language."

China published coordinates for an East China Sea Air Defence Identification Zone over the weekend and warned it would take "defensive emergency measures" against aircraft that failed to identify themselves properly in the airspace.

The zone covers most of that sea and includes the skies over islands at the heart of a territorial dispute with Japan.

"The policy announced by the Chinese over the weekend is unnecessarily inflammatory," White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters in California, where President Barack Obama is travelling.

"These are the kinds of differences that should not be addressed with threats or inflammatory language, but rather can and should be resolved diplomatically," he said.

The dispute flared ahead of a trip to the region by Vice President Joe Biden, who is scheduled to travel to Japan early next week and also has stops in China and South Korea. The White House announced the trip in early November.

Two US B-52 bombers carried out the flight, part of a long-planned exercise, on Monday night Eastern Standard Time, a US military official said, identifying the type of aircraft on condition of anonymity.

Pentagon officials said there was no Chinese response.

"We have conducted operations in the area of the Senkakus. We have continued to follow our normal procedures, which include not filing flight plans, not radioing ahead and not registering our frequencies," spokesman Colonel Steve Warren said, using the Japanese name for the islands.

The United States and close ally Japan have sharply criticised China's airspace declaration, with US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel calling it a "destabilising attempt to alter the status quo in the region." He said on Saturday the United States would not change how it operates there.

Some airlines in the region agreed to begin complying with the Chinese identification measures, which effectively force countries to recognise Beijing's authority there.

But Japan's two biggest airlines - Japan Airlines and ANA Holdings - bowed to a Japanese government request to stop complying with the Chinese demands for flight plans and other information. They will stop providing the information beginning Wednesday, spokesmen for the carriers said.

Experts said the Chinese move was aimed at chipping away at Tokyo's claim to administrative control over the area, including the tiny uninhabited islands known as the Senkaku in Japanand the Diaoyu in China.

While Washington does not take a position on the sovereignty of the islands, it recognises that Japan has administrative control over them and is therefore bound by treaty to defend Japan in the event of an armed conflict.

The Pentagon said the training exercise "involved two aircraft flying from Guam and returning to Guam." Warren said the US military aircraft were neither observed nor were contacted by the Chinese aircraft.

China's Defence Ministry said on Monday it had lodged protests with the US and Japanese embassies in Beijing over the criticism from Washington and Tokyo of the zone.

China also summoned Japan's ambassador, warning Tokyo to "stop words and actions which create friction and harm regional stability," China's Foreign Ministry said. Meanwhile, Tokyoand Seoul summoned Chinese diplomats to protest.

In addition, China sent its sole aircraft carrier on a training mission into the South China Sea on Tuesday amid maritime disputes with the Philippines and other neighbors and tension over its airspace defense zone.

It is the first time it was sent to the South China Sea.

Australia summoned China's ambassador to express concern over its imposition of an "Air Defence Identification Zone" over the East China Sea, the foreign minister said on Tuesday, decrying the move as unhelpful in a region beset by tension.


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China has insisted it has the ability to enforce its newly-declared air zone over islands disputed with Japan, despite Beijing's reluctance to intervene after American B-52 bombers entered the area.

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BEIJING: China has insisted it has the ability to enforce its newly-declared air zone over islands disputed with Japan, despite Beijing's reluctance to intervene after American B-52 bombers entered the area.

The flight of the giant long-range US Stratofortress planes was a clear warning that Washington would push back against what it considers an aggressive stance.

While US defence chief Chuck Hagel praised Tokyo's restraint, officials indicated Vice President Joe Biden would personally convey America's "concerns" about the matter during a visit to the Chinese capital next week.

Qin Gang, the foreign ministry spokesman in Beijing told reporters Wednesday: "The Chinese government has the will and ability to defend our national sovereignty and security."

"We also have the ability to exercise effective control over the East Sea Air Defence Identification Zone," (ADIZ) he said.

The area in the East China Sea includes Japan-administered islands at the heart of a tense dispute between the two neighbours, known as Senkaku in Tokyo and Diaoyu in Beijing.

A Chinese demand over the weekend that aircraft submit flight plans when traversing it triggered a storm of diplomatic protest and the Pentagon said the B-52s did not comply.

But in a statement, Chinese defence ministry spokesman Geng Yansheng said: "The Chinese military monitored the entire process, carried out identification in a timely manner, and ascertained the type of US aircraft."

Biden, scheduled to meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping and other high-ranking officials during his visit, was poised to address the matter head-on.

"Clearly, the visit to China creates an opportunity for the vice president to discuss directly with policymakers in Beijing this issue, to convey our concerns directly and to seek clarity regarding the Chinese intentions in making this move at this time," a senior US administration official told reporters.

The Chinese ADIZ requires aircraft to provide their flight plan, declare their nationality and maintain two-way radio communication, or face defensive emergency measures.

The manoeuvres have raised fears of an accidental clash but analysts stress that both sides have commercial incentives to avoid conflict.

State-run media say it extends as close to Japan as Tokyo's zone approaches China.

The B-52 flight was also a signal of US support for Japan, with which Washington has a security pact.

The American ambassador to Tokyo, Caroline Kennedy, said: "The Japanese can see every day that America is here for them as a partner in the defence of Japan."

Japanese airlines, under pressure from Tokyo, stopped following China's new rules Wednesday, after initially complying.

The US bombers - which were unarmed - took off from Guam on Monday on a scheduled flight in what American defence officials insist was a routine exercise.

Users of China's Twitter-like Sina Weibo accused their government of buckling when challenged.

"They came to test us and proved you don't have the guts to show them who's boss," said one.

But analysts said Beijing - where a key Communist Party meeting took place earlier this month - had remained vague about how it might enforce its authority and may never have intended to react in the field.

It may have simply wanted to declare an ADIZ to match Japan's and further assert its claim to the contested islands, they said.

Beijing left its options open "so they can explain away things like why there's nothing they can do about the violation of their ADIZ", said Jingdong Yuan, an international security expert at the University of Sydney.

Gary Li, a senior fellow at consultancy IHS Maritime, said the ADIZ "is entirely designed to give the Chinese more options on the diplomatic side of the argument, give them more tools, more leverage."

Chinese officials and state media have accused Japan and the US - which both have ADIZs - of double standards, and argue that the real provocateur is Tokyo.

The islands dispute, which has simmered for decades, escalated in September 2012 when Japan purchased three of the uninhabited outcrops from private owners.

Beijing accused Tokyo of changing the status quo and has since sent ships and planes to the area as displays of force, prompting Japan to scramble fighter jets 386 times in the year to September.

After an unidentified drone flew towards the islands, Tokyo threatened to shoot down such aircraft, which Beijing warned would amount to an "act of war".

- AFP/de

中國網絡觀察:防空鬧劇 中共當局成笑柄
相關專題: [釣魚島之爭] 2013-11-28 01:47 AM
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在評論美國軍機挑戰中國單方面設立的防空識別區的時候,許多中國網民將中國的外交和內政聯繫起來,抨擊、諷刺中國政府的腐敗無能,中國軍隊的腐敗無能:“外媒稱美國B-52轟炸機飛越中國防空識別區 。評:美軍真麼不地道,晚上偷偷摸摸地來偷襲,我們在睡覺不是,二奶纏著脫不開身啊!有種白天來啊?”


“這下中國糗大了,咋不升空幾架戰鬥機迫降它一下”、“美帝逼逼個啥 有本事來疊個被子啊”(註:“疊被”,許多中國公眾和網民認為,中國軍隊腐敗無能,訓練無方,是繡花枕頭,中看不中用,中國軍人最嚴格的訓練就是把被子疊好,再用木板夾的方方正正。)

“呵呵,這下糗大了,怎麼辦了?讓戴旭、張召忠羅源等將軍用嘴炮打下來? ”



“這個戴旭 很奇怪,整天在網上唧唧歪歪,左一個美帝,右一個第五縱隊的。美帝都欺負到家門口了,翻遍他的微博,也沒見有甚麼宣戰的意思,倒是對國內公知批判的挺來勁,這難道就是傳說中的鷹派?”、“上次張將軍說種海帶對付美國核潛艇,給了我很大的啟發,難道我們不能在我們的防空識別區內大規模放風箏嗎?不行放氫氣球也行啊!我就不信嚇不死他們,看他B-52再敢過來得瑟!”(註:“近平”,顯然是指中國國家主席、軍委主席、中國軍隊總司令習近平﹔司馬南,吳法天,中國毛派和極端民族主義代表人物,也以高調發表反美言論、表示不懼怕跟美國開戰而著稱)

“支持用世界最先進的中國獨有武器——【嘴炮】 ”

“美國B-52轟炸機飛躍釣魚島領空,就是故意挑戰和羞辱中國空軍啊!呵呵,國防部打嘴炮還行,真要打不敢啊!丟人了。”、“我軍應該派遣大規模說服性武器飛躍美帝上空,把美國百姓從水生火熱的生活中解救出來!!! ”


在眾多的針對中國當局的嘲笑和戲弄的網民評論中,也有一些真真假假、真假莫辨的評論,好似為中國當局說話:“看評論發現設個防空識別區,美軍飛機一來,全是為美軍站臺的。我亂了 ”、“看評論挺無語的,受侮辱了國人不罵美國,反倒諷刺政府去了 ”












“全亞洲幾乎所有國家都等著中國能保護他們的利益,中國不硬,後患和利益損失太大,中國統領全球的意志越堅,所付出的成本就會越低。西方的技術全部停滯了,所謂的新技術多半是結合好萊塢編劇概念臆造臆測的加上它們毛多體臭身窮,幾乎所有人都噁心。10年內肯定能扳倒美帝霸權,別再養它了,吹集結號吧 ”

“演出開始了,我們從一窮二白中崛起,只用了64年!大不了從頭再來!毛主席打過老美,揍過小日本我們都勝利了!啥也別說:開戰! ”


“美狗少亂叫!你美爹拿個破舊貨出來蒙事,你亢奮個鳥!如果你美爹真有自信威懾該派B2或者F22過來。只怕從基地一起飛就被天朝的高清實時對地觀測衛星捕捉到了。同時也不想讓天朝輕易拿到雷達數據,畢竟就這點最後嚇人的家底了! ”



“事實證明,最大的敵人是米國,日本菲律賓甚麼的都只是小丑! 還是要跟老毛子(註:“老毛子”,戲稱,即俄羅斯)加強加深合作才行! ”


“中國的航空母艦遼寧 有許多被俄羅斯愚弄了的鏽的舊貨的航空母艦遼寧。中途最好不沉沒。 ”



“一國本無權在國際空域採取強制措施。但中國公告卻使用威脅性語句。別國的識別區就沒有這種威脅性規定。假如日本也惡狠狠,對於進入日方識別區且“拒不服從”日軍指令的中國民航機,要動用“武裝力量採取緊急防禦措施”。那中方肯定也不干。應該說,這次中方傲過頭。才遭美國修理。 “













“很讓國人傷心,,傷自尊吶,政府不作為!! ”

“打吧,和美帝幹一場,這樣,人民也可以早日得解放。 ”



1 名前:キャプテンシステムρφ ★[sage ] 投稿日:2013/11/28(木) 15:07:39.59 ID:???0





B-52 Dropping Lots & Lots of Bombs - Carpet Bombing

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Obama's immigration speech in deep-blue San Francisco interrupted by anti-deportation hecklers

Obama's immigration speech in deep-blue San Francisco interrupted by anti-deportation hecklers
By Josh Richman

POSTED: 11/25/2013 12:41:48 PM PST | UPDATED: ABOUT 24 HOURS AGO


President Barack Obama gives a speech on immigration reform at the Betty Ann Ong Chinese Recreation Center in San Francisco, Calif. on Monday, Nov. 25, 2013. (Jim Gensheimer/Bay Area News Group)
President Barack Obama gives a speech on immigration reform at the Betty Ann Ong Chinese Recreation Center in San Francisco, Calif. on Monday, Nov. 25, 2013. (Jim Gensheimer/Bay Area News Group)
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SAN FRANCISCO -- With a diverse mix of immigrants lined up behind him, President Barack Obama set out in a speech Monday to hold House Republicans' feet to the fire for obstructing immigration reform. Instead he felt the heat himself as activists given places of honor heckled him for his administration's record number of deportations.

In an extraordinary example of how Obama often has been blindsided of late, the president turned to look back at what was supposed to be a panorama of supportive faces to find Ju Hong, a 24-year-old South Korean immigrant, shouting: "I need your help." Hong said families like his are being torn apart, and urged Obama to use his executive power to stop it. "Stop deportations, yes we can," Hong and others chanted, stunning the 400 people gathered for the speech at the Betty Ong Chinese Recreation Center.

President Barack Obama, left, has his speech interrupted by Ju Hong, right on stage, who heckled him about anti-deportation policies, Monday, Nov. 25, 2013, at the Betty Ann Ong Chinese Recreation Center in San Francisco. The young man shouted about his family being separated for Thanksgiving, and said Obama should use his executive power to stop this. "Stop deportations, yes we can," the man and other people chanted. The Obama stopped Secret Service agents who tried to remove the protesters. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais) ( Pablo Martinez Monsivais )
Obama quickly called off Secret Service agents who had moved to remove the demonstrators.

"I respect the passion of these young people because they feel deeply about the concerns for their families," Obama said. "If, in fact, I could solve all these problems without passing laws in Congress, then I would do so.

"But we're also a nation of laws, that's part of our tradition," he continued. "And so the easy way out is to try to yell and pretend like I can do something by violating our laws. And what I'm proposing is the harder path, which is to use our democratic processes to achieve the same goal."

With his job approval ratings near their nadir amid the botched technology and political pressures of the new health care law's rollout, Obama sought safe haven in a region he has always counted on for support. He barnstormed the Bay Area to try to return immigration to the headlines and to raise money for Democrats. Yet even at one of those fundraisers, an audience member's urging that he use executive powers to bypass a gridlocked Congress seemed to underscore that this president is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

Obama framed immigration reform as a moral and economic necessity in order for the nation to reach its potential. On Thanksgiving this Thursday, millions of American families will recall and retell their tales of immigration and self-sacrifice so their children could have better lives, he said.

"What makes us American is our shared belief in certain enduring principles, our allegiance to a set of ideals, to a creed, to the enduring promise of this country," he said. "The only thing standing in our way right now is the unwillingness of certain Republicans in Congress to catch up with the rest of the country."

Reform must include everything from stronger border security and holding employers accountable for knowingly hiring undocumented workers, to eliminating the family-visa backlog, attracting more skilled entrepreneurs, and "providing a pathway to earned citizenship for those who are living in the shadows," Obama said. "This isn't just the right thing to do, it's the smart thing to do."

House Speaker John Boehner said last week that Congress must act on immigration reform, but he has refused to let the Senate-passed bill come up for consideration. His caucus is split over whether reform should include providing a path to citizenship for those already here.

"I believe the speaker is sincere, I think he genuinely wants to get it done," Obama said Monday, referring to Boehner. "But it's going to require some courage. There are some members of the Republican caucus who think this is bad politics for them back home."

"We can't leave this problem for another generation to solve," he said. "If we don't tackle this now, we're undercutting our own future."

But Hong -- whose mother brought him to this country at age 11, and who has qualified for "deferred action" under the Obama administration's policy -- was not convinced. He and his cohorts are affiliated with a group called ASPIRE, Asian Students Promoting Immigrant Rights through Education. After the speech, he said it had been "a huge opportunity for me to be here and speak out," but he felt Obama had resorted to "political talking points" rather than addressing the protesters' concerns.

Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Pleasanton, was among several House members at the speech, and later Monday said he understands the protesters' anger: "Until we pass immigration reform, we're in a position where we've got both sides of the issue unhappy -- one side that rightfully thinks we're not doing enough, and one that fears we'll do something."

But some immigration reform advocacy groups said Obama is reaping what he has sown. The Obama administration has deported more immigrants annually than the George W. Bush administration, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

"The president has the power to halt his destructive deportations and must use it now," said Arturo Carmona, executive director of "Until he stops the deportations, we will only escalate against him and his policies further. He can't fool us anymore."

After the speech, Obama headlined a Democratic National Committee fundraising luncheon at the San Francisco Jazz Center before attending another fundraiser at the home of Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff, with about 30 tech executives who paid $32,400 each. Obama then flew to Los Angeles to headline two more Democratic fundraisers Monday night.

At the jazz center event, Obama spoke about the need to create jobs while restoring the nation's social safety net.

But when an audience member urged him to proceed by executive order -- much as the immigration protesters had in Chinatown -- Obama responded, "A lot of people have been saying this lately on every problem. Just sign an executive order and we can ... nullify Congress."

When the audience applauded, he said, "that's not how it works. ... There is no shortcut to politics. There is no shortcut to democracy. We have to win on the merits of the argument ... as laborious as it seems sometimes."

Josh Richman covers politics. Contact him at 510-208-6428. Follow him at Read the Political Blotter at

President Obama interrupted by former UC Berkeley student senator at immigration speech in San Francisco


SAN FRANCISCO — President Barack Obama was caught by surprise Monday when a former UC Berkeley student government official interrupted his speech on immigration, demanding Obama take more action on the issue.

Obama, who was in San Francisco as part of a brief West Coast fundraising tour, delivered remarks calling on Congress to pass immigration reform legislation but found himself struggling to speak over a heckler who shouted that his family had been torn apart by U.S. immigration policy and asked the president to use an executive order to halt deportations of undocumented immigrants.

Although the president spoke in favor of reform — saying it would strengthen border control, reduce the national deficit by $850 billion and grow the economy by $1.4 trillion over the next 20 years — Ju Hong, who graduated from UC Berkeley in 2012, remained unimpressed.

“My family has been separated for 19 months now,” he cried out. “I need your help … you have a power to stop deportation for all undocumented immigrants in this country.”

As members of the Secret Service attempted to remove Hong, the president brushed them away and said he respected the “passion of these young people.”

Obama said, however, that he was unwilling to “violate the law” and act without Congress’ explicit approval, adding that if he could solve these problems without passing laws in Congress, he would.

“The easy way out is to try to yell and pretend like I can do something by violating our laws,” Obama said. “What I’m proposing is the harder path, which is to use our democratic processes to achieve the same goal that you want to achieve. But it won’t be as easy as just shouting.”

After the speech, Hong called Obama’s remarks “very disappointing.” Hong, who said he immigrated to the United States from South Korea without documentation at age 11, said Obama’s “political will” was weak.

“He blames Congress but not himself,” Hong said. “He said he’s in full support (of immigration reform), but he’s not doing anything. An executive order is not violating the law.”

Hong was part of a coalition of students from the San Francisco-based immigrant rights advocacy group Asian Students Promoting Immigrant Rights through Education who were in attendance to “make (their) voices heard,” according to Dean Santos, a 23-year-old college student at Notre Dame de Namur University in Belmont, Calif.

Before Hong interrupted his speech, Obama emphasized the need to reform the path to citizenship for students and college graduates, saying the United States invites “the brightest minds from around the world to study” — many of them enrolled in the University of California system — but does not encourage them to stay.

“We end up sending them home to create new jobs and start new businesses someplace else,” Obama said. “So we’re training our own competition rather than inviting those incredibly talented young people … to stay here and start businesses and create jobs here.”

UC President Janet Napolitano, who recently announced that she would allocate $5 million in discretionary funds for undocumented students, was in attendance at Obama’s speech. Napolitano previously served as Secretary of Homeland Security in the Obama administration before taking the UC presidency in October.

Many undocumented students and allies, however, have said that they still do not think Napolitano has done enough — and that no matter what action she takes, she cannot undo the harm to thousands of families that have been torn apart by legislation she enforced while working for Obama.

Hong said he was personally affected by of one of the Obama administration’s more controversial policies, Secure Communities, which allows local governments to turn in undocumented immigrants to federal immigration authorities.

Hong said that his family home was burglarized in 2010 but that his family was too afraid of deportation to call the police.

“Speaking in front of the president is scary,” Hong said of his decision to interrupt Obama’s speech. “(But) I was compelled to say what I had to say.”

Hong, who graduated from UC Berkeley with a degree in political science, also protested Napolitano’s confirmation as UC president in July and has said he will continue to protest to raise awareness of inhumane deportations of undocumented individuals in the United States.

Before the interruption, Obama said in his speech that reform required bipartisan support, which he said he was optimistic about achieving.

“Immigration reform isn’t just the right thing to do,” Obama said. “It’s the smart thing to do.”

Sara Grossman is the executive news editor. Contact her at and follow her on Twitter @saragrossman.

Jasper O'Leary · Santa Rosa High
Yes, being peaceful and orderly about the fact that current laws separate one's family must prove frustrating and fruitless. But, when somebody interrupts the president of the United States, gets saved from being dragged off by the secret service by the president of the United States, gets personally and quite reasonably addressed by the president of the United States, and then subsequently calls the president's remarks "very disappointing," ... really? Interrupting speeches *in favor* of immigration reform is no way to better the status quo for immigration reform.
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Karla E. Márquez · Napa Valley College
How many speeches on immigration reform have you heard? Ju has heard many, so has Dean, so have I. We've heard the same words thrown around for over a decade now. The disappointment he speaks of isn't in response to one speech - it's in response to policies supported by this administration and the façade that's been put up by his party that they are the only ones who understand and support immigrants. Someone had to speak up, and I am absolutely proud of Ju for finally calling out the president and - as Anderson Cooper would say - "keeping them honest."
Reply · 6 · · 6 hours ago

Jasper O'Leary · Santa Rosa High
I do sympathize with the Hong's cause, and I am aware of the regretful political stagnation that keeps people who are undocumented from covering any real ground in their struggle. At the same time though, I disagree with how Hong delivered his message. When you interrupt somebody like that, it only adds to the increasingly hostile rhetoric we've been hearing in politics. For example, do you think many people, after reading this article, will question their stance on immigration and think critically about the events which happened? Or, will readers only take note of how some person interrupted the president and keep it at that? I'm really glad Hong that audacity of "keeping [Obama] honest." But, as Obama himself responded, making changes to immigration policy is multifaceted and he is indeed being honest -- policy affects many people, not just immigrants, and everybody deserves to have a say. Sometimes you've got to be disruptive, but shouting demands for executive pardons should never take the place of reasoned debate, however hard it might be to get that debate going.
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Mario Arturo Mejia · UC Berkeley
I really don't understand why people would insult or look down upon Ju Hong for what he did. He used the only avenue he could to speak directly to the President of the United States about his struggle and his plight. This was a once in a lifetime opportunity to tell the actual President how his policies and inaction has hurt so many families including his own. I find that to the be only logical thing to do: if you want to speak those in charge, actually speak to them. While he may have interrupted Obama, his message is important. I personally believed he should commended for truly embodying American ideals and values by questioning Obama and treating as him as he is, just a person. And there is validity to his argument. The President of the United States is the chief law enforcement agent in the Constitution. Should President Obama stop deportations, it would be done. He has taken similar actions of not enforcing certain laws before and it is perfectly within his realm of power to do so. So I see Obama merely excusing his inaction and placing the blame on Republicans as a political move with the costs of thousands of lives. If more people were like Ju Hong using their right of freedom of speech to express their opinions directly to their leader, perhaps real democracy can occur rather than politics in Washington.
Reply · 7 · · 6 hours ago

Connor Toscano · UC Berkeley
except Obama's response was right on point. Ju Hong asked the president for an an executive order to halt the deportation of his family, bypassing the legal legislative approached to solve the problem. That would be illegal and only solve problems based on the short term. As much as it may be difficult to actually get something through congress, it will just be as difficult to undo the work that Obama has put forth in the issue. And so I believe Obama's decision to not use any Executive privileges that so often blur the line between illegal and legal means of power and abuse of power is the right decision.
Reply · 6 · · 6 hours ago

Connor Toscano · UC Berkeley
plus using executive orders left and right just doesn't look good and will only lead to a more dysfunctional and disdainful congress
Reply · 2 · · 6 hours ago

Benjamin Leong
Bad form very inappropriate and rude
Reply · 3 · · 7 hours ago

Bernadette Ferriter · Top Commenter
Has anyone tried this trick in South (or even North) Korea, telling the presidents what to do during a public speech?? Lock this idiot up, then fulfill his wish - back home to the family in Korea, he misses so much
Reply · · 9 hours ago

Quang Milligan · Boston, Massachusetts
that kid is pretty brave if you ask me. He's not afraid to exercise a first amendment right that many of us citizens have. How many people have the courage to do what he did? Why lock him up? This is a free country after all.
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Bernadette Ferriter · Top Commenter
Quang Milligan: if "that kid is pretty brave", then he should join the military like real young American heroes are doing...he can get his citizenship that way, rather than through his selfish arrogance. He misses his family?? Don't you think the real Americans miss their families?? And, by the way, he has NO rights here, no First Amendment, nothing. He is taking a space for someone who has waited for years to become a citizen and should not be in this country at all. DEPORTATION FOR ILLEGALS
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Quang Milligan · Boston, Massachusetts
Bernadette Ferriter Hey I respect your opinion, but things aren't always black and white. There are those grey areas. All I'm saying is not a lot of people have the courage to even speak to the president about what concerns them.
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DREAMer Wins Student Senate Position at UC-Berkeley

University of California-Berkeley student senator Ju Hong, is one hundreds of undocumented students matriculating at the school.
BY MICAH UETRICHT | MAY 12, 2011 AT 11:28 PM

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Ju Hong has big plans.

An undergraduate at University of California-Berkeley, he is deeply involved in activism on campus, was recently elected to student senate, and plans on attending law school.

His only problem: He’s undocumented—one of the estimated 1.9 million undocumented young people in the United States.

Not that his immigration status has slowed him at all. “My personal struggle [with immigration has] made me stronger,” Hong says.

Hong was born in Seoul, South Korea, in 1989. His parents were small business owners and he says his mother and father worked hard, but struggled to provide for their family.

“We faced tremendous financial difficulties,” Hong says. “We were barely surviving. I ate one or two meals a day.”

When Hong was 11, the family flew to the U.S. on tourist visas. Their visas eventually expired, but they did not leave. And Hong had no clue his family had suddenly and quietly become members of the population of undocumented immigrants in the U.S. estimated at 12 million.

During his senior year in high school, Hong was filling out a college application that asked for his social security number. He didn’t know what to write, so he went home and asked his mom what his number was. Her response left him floored: their family had overstayed a tourist visa from South Korea, and they were all undocumented citizens. He didn’t have a social security number.

“I became a totally different person,”he says. “I became totally distant from people. I avoided questions like, ‘what college are you going to?’ ‘Why don’t you have a driver’s license?’ ‘Why don’t you have a job?’ ”

And added to that, he felt pressure from his own community. “There’s a lot of cultural stigma within the Korean community” about being undocumented, he says.

He enrolled at Laney Community College, in Oakland through an affidavit under state law AB540, a bill that was passed in 2001 by former Gov. Gray Davis (D) that allows undocumented students to attend public universities and pay in-state tuition. Hong kept his head down, avoiding discussions of his status—until he heard about undocumented students who came out of the shadows and proclaimed their status to the world, particularly the story of fellow Californian and University of California-Los Angeles student Tam Tran. Tran was killed in a car accident last year.

“Tam Tran's story stood out because…her situation was quite similar to mine,” Hong says.

“I was inspired—[other undocumented youth] were taking such a great risk,” Hong says. “I realized that there were people out there just like me, who were having a difficult time as undocumented students,” but were out.

Slowly, Hong felt himself returning to his old, outgoing self. He began a blog—anonymous, at first—on being undocumented. Then, in 2009, he took a big step by deciding to come out as undocumented on YouTube.

The same year, Hong ran for student body president at Laney College and won, becoming the school’s first Asian-American and first undocumented president.

Hong soon decided to transfer to Berkeley and ran for student senate as a part of the CalSERVE Coalition, a progressive slate of senators. There are somewhere between 340 and 630 undocumented students at Berkeley, according to the university president’s office, and Hong says the those students lack real representation in student government.

“A lot of AB540 students feel like they’re alone, like they don’t have any support. I want to show them that they do. My main constituents were undocumented students. They appreciate the fact that I bring their voices to our campus, and to make sure that they continue to have access to higher education.”

In April, Hong found out he won, making him one of a small handful of undocumented students elected to student government around the country. He plans to push for policies that would make the campus more welcoming to students without papers.

After graduation, Hong hopes to become an immigration attorney, to help guide other immigrants through the maddening American immigration maze. And he plans to continue organizing for legislation for undocumented students. His dream of attending law school can�t be fulfilled without the passage of legislation that would legalize his and other undocumented students� statuses, so he is willing to put his own tenuous immigration status on the line.

“I’m really at a level where I’m ready to take a risk to push the Asian American community to help push the DREAM Act,” he states. “So many people are suffering in our community. I don’t want that to happen in the next generation.”

Micah Uetricht is a staff writer with Campus Progress. You can follow him on Twitter @micahuetricht.

Dream Act as an Equalizer
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Hong on the Dream Act
Ju Hong, ASUC senator 2011-2012

I recently had the pleasure of speaking to a student on the UC Berkeley campus with a strong message to undocumented students everywhere. Ju Hong, a Junior at Cal and student senator was endorsed last year by the AB540 community as their representative in student government. After a successful campaign, Hong is about to complete his 1-year term in office, but his advocacy for the undocumented community will continue, as well as his drive to improve their educational attainment opportunities.

He began to become politically active after realizing his own status. After researching immigration issues, he began to get involved in non-profit organizations and became more politically conscious in the process. In his opinion, the only way he was going to make positive changes was by way of involvement and AB540 representation in the student government, and that’s exactly what he did!

I asked him a few questions about his opinions of the Dream Act, both the California and the federal versions of it. Even though the CA Dream Act has already passed, it is important to understand why it is a just and necessary piece of legislation and Hong covered very crucial ground as to its relevance. First of all, both AB 130 and AB 131 are the assembly bills that together complete the CA Dream Act. AB 130 allows for undocumented students to apply and qualify for private grants and scholarships that normally require a social security number. AB 131 similarly allows for students to qualify for state financial aid. Now, whether undocumented students are deserving of this money or not is what is contested in the Dream Act debate. Hong explains how all undocumented students must pay out-of-state tuition if they do not qualify for AB 540, the bill that allows undocumented and out-of-state students to pay in-state tuition if they meet certain requirements. AB 540 waives the extra $10,000 out-of-state fee for those who qualify, but before the Dream Act passed, these students still had to come up with a way to pay the rest of tuition fees without help from many available scholarships or financial aid. For many, either their immediate and extended families have had to unite to help pay the cost of their schooling, or the students simply rely on private scholarships open to AB 540 students which are not as abundant as scholarships available to US citizens. This huge obstacle in itself is tremendous discouragement for undocumented students who learn of their undocumented status the minute they try to apply for FAFSA in high school and realize they can’t because they don’t have a Social Security Number. Once they realize they do not qualify for financial aid, it may be too late for some to try to come up with the money to attend a university the following year.

A huge inequality issue, Hong says, is the fact that the financial aid money that all low-income students receive comes from tuition fees. Undocumented and AB 540 students pay these fees and are also very likely to be low-income, but do not qualify to receive any of the aid that they are contributing to. Similarly, tuition fees, paid by all enrolled students, are used to fund many different resources on campus, some of which students without a social security do not qualify for, such as work study jobs or anything that requires that SSN. Now that the Dream Act has passed, these students get a piece of the pie that they helped to bake in the first place. Others would also argue that undocumented students and their families do not pay the state taxes that generate funds for financial aid and therefore don’t deserve to benefit from it. However, Hong clarifies that undocumented families not only pay income taxes, but also sales tax and have to file taxes every year just like other families, which is a topic you can read more about in my previous post, Demystifying the Facts. In that sense, the Dream Act is an equalizer because it gives undocumented students the financial aid that they need and deserve because they are tax-paying and are of low-income status. Hong argues that most of these undocumented students were brought to this country as babies and therefore grew up here just like other American students, so “why not educate them and allow them to contribute to our workforce and society in a more productive way?”

Hong at Sather Gate
Ju Hong at UC Berkeley's Sather Gate
As far as the demographics of the population that is affected by the passing of the Dream Act, this only includes AB 540 students. AB 540 students are either undocumented or out-of-state students who completed 3 years of high school or more in California. They must also fill out an affidavit which is a written promise from the student to the university pledging that they will actively work on the adjustment of their status. The demographic that comprises that AB 540 population is a little different than many expect. 46-48% are Asian and about 50% are Chican@/Latin@. Of that “Asian” category, 70% are Korean, 16% are Chinese and 13% are Philipino. Hong points out that it is interesting that many assume immigration and undocumented issues are a Latin@ issue, but clearly they are not, since almost half of the undocumented population falls under the category of “Asian.”

The UC Berkeley campus has actually shown a lot of leadership in the obtaining and dispersing of scholarships to undocumented students this past January. Current chancellor Robert Birgeneau has been instrumental not only in the advocacy process prior to the passing of the CA Dream Act and in the current fight for a federal Dream Act, but also in the implementation of an AB 540 student scholarship committee on campus. At the start of 2012, 130 people received the AB 130 scholarship at UC Berkeley, which was up to $8,000 of potential aid based on financial need. The GPA requirement for this scholarship was a 3.0, which is higher than that of many other scholarship applications.

Living in California, says Hong, is a great privilege because it has taken very liberal and progressive stances on many issues pertaining to immigrant rights. Currently, assemblymember Gil Cedillo is working on apiece of legislation that if passed will allow qualifying undocumented folks the opportunity to get a Driver’s License. Another upcoming piece of legislation will allow folks a work permit. AB 540 students currently graduate from college with very limited opportunities thereafter. This law would get rid of the AB 540 student’s dilemma of what to do after graduation and allow them to continue to pursue their educational and/or career goals. Even though we have so far been able to pass AB 540, AB 130 and AB 131, there is still plenty of work to do! Hong advises that undocumented students and allies outreach to the younger generations and educate them on the struggle that it was to get to where we are now and on all the work that there is still to be done. He fears that the passing of the CA Dream Act might lead too many to take a less active role in the activism or the undocumented community in general, but he wants to urge people to continue to remain mentally present in the continuing struggle for undocumented student rights. We must continue to advocate for not only the federal version of the Dream Act, but we must also remain conscious of all the work that will continue to be a priority in the struggle for equal rights for the immigrant community.

Story of Ju Hong, a Dreamer
By Ju Hong · April 16, 2013

538232_10151151440426982_1323909133_n_(2).jpgMy name is Ju Hong and I am an undocumented immigrant.

I was born in South Korea on October 23rd, 1989. In South Korea, my parents had a Japanese restaurant in downtown Seoul. Due to the economic recession, my parents hardly made any income from our business.

Shortly thereafter, my parents filed for bankruptcy. In the following year, my mother and my father decided to divorce. After that, I lived with my mother and my older sister, barely able to afford to buy food and a place to stay in South Korea.

In 2001, my mother made a bold decision – she left everything behind and decided to move to the United States to seek a better life for my sister and me. However, once we arrived in the United States, we faced a different set of challenges.

As a single parent, it was hard for my mother to raise my sister and me in a new country. She worked twelve hours a day, seven days a week, sacrificing her time and energy to support my education and provide food on the table each day. She was and still is exhausted and overwhelmed after work.

Like my mom, my sister works full-time. Until recently she attended community college at the same time but because of financial difficulties, she had to drop out. My sister had the chance to attend more prestigious colleges and universities. Instead, she is 27 years old and working two shifts at a restaurant, mopping floors, and washing dishes, while her friends are experiencing college life.
Ever since I moved to this country, I grew up just like many other American students. I went to public school, spoke English, joined student groups, and participated in sports team. Most importantly, I had a dream – a dream to go to college.
During senior year in high school, I was filling out a college application that asked for a social security number. Since I didn’t know what to write, I asked my mom about my social security number. Her response left me with confusion. I learned that my family had overstayed a tourist visa from South Korea. We are undocumented immigrants.
At first, I didn’t know what it meant to be undocumented until I realized I was unable to get a job, obtain a driver’s license, or receive any governmental financial aid. Worst of all, I was and still am at risk of being deported at any given period of time.
Knowing that I have limited opportunities due to my immigration status, I felt discouraged to continue to pursue a higher education. But as I remembered how my mother sacrificed her time and energy to support my education, I decided to stand strong and reaffirm my dreams of attending college once more.
I enrolled at Laney College in Oakland California under the state law AB540, which allows undocumented students to attend public universities and pay in-state tuition. Once I learned more about AB540 and the DREAM Act, I became hopeful and more motivated to continue to pursue a higher education. As I learned more, I also discovered stories of other undocumented students. When I saw other students risking their lives to share their testimony about their immigration status, I became inspired. That’s when I wanted to be active in a community and let my voice be heard. Not only did I want to empower other undocumented students, but I also wanted to make a difference in pushing for legislation that would affect me and my family, and also other immigrant communities, in a very positive way. I had ambitious dreams.
At Laney College, I was the president of the Asian American Association student organization. As the president, I spread awareness about Asian Pacific Islander issues through cultural events, workshops, and town hall meetings.
In sophomore year, I became the first Asian American and the youngest student body president at Laney College. I managed and balanced a Student Body budget of $90,000, governed 25 student clubs and organizations, and represented 14,000 diverse students on campus. Furthermore, I have organized more than 500 students to attend Sacramento to protest California educational fee hikes that are affecting students, especially students of color and low-income students.
After two years at Laney College, I graduated with a 3.8GPA before I transferred to the school of my dream: UC Berkeley.
In the summer of 2011, six other undocumented students and I took part in an act of civil disobedience to empower young undocumented immigrant youth across the nation and to protest the inhuman treatments of immigrants. We sat in the street nearby San Bernardino Valley College and submitted to arrest. We were taken to jail. This is the first time in California, when undocumented youth participated in non-violent civil disobedience. I am also the first Asian American undocumented student in the country to participate in a civil disobedience action.
At UC Berkeley, I ran for student government senator and was elected as the very first undocumented student government senator in UC Berkeley history. As a Senator, I have managed and balanced the UC Berkeley’s student government $1.7 million budget along with 19 other elected senators. Moreover, I managed more than 1,000 student clubs and organizations, and advocate on diverse issues related to health care, affordable education, and academic services. Furthermore, I chaired the standing committee on university and external affairs that makes recommendation on all matters of educational policy. Though my term as a senator has ended, I am still involved in student government and different nonprofit organizations to support students to attain higher education at the four-year university.
I am an undocumented student. I came to the United States when I was 11-years old. I have been living in the United States for the past eleven years. I graduated from high school in 2008, attended Laney College until 2010 and transferred to UC Berkeley. I graduated from UC Berkeley in 2012, and I am currently pursuing a master’s program in Public Administration at San Francisco State University. Once I finish my master’s program, my goal is continue to work in a nonprofit organization, providing services and resources to underprivileged immigrant communities. Ultimately, my simple dream is to live a decent life with my family in this country I call home. My only intention is to contribute to make this great nation a better place.
In fact, 11 million undocumented immigrants also have that similar dream as I do. This is why we need to pass a fair and humane comprehensive immigration reform this year in 2013. There are too many talented undocumented immigrants dropping out of school and immigrant family members are being torn apart due to our broken immigration system. This year, we have a chance – a strong chance to not only solving our broken immigration system but also protecting the dreams of next generation of immigrants in this great country. So let us organize, mobilize, and take collective actions to ensure our voices are heard and push for immigration reform. This is the defining moment in our history – and the time for immigration reform is now.
-Ju Hong
Ju is a student in the Master’s program in Public Administration at San Francisco State University. He hopes to continue to work in a non-profit organization, providing services and resources to underprivileged immigrant communities. Eventually, Ju wants to become a public servant, represent and serve a diverse group of people in the great state of California.
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UC Berkeley student Ju Hong: Undocumented and unafraid
August 3, 2011 11:00 am by Diana Arbas

Ju Hong being arrested at the July 12 rally in San Bernardino. Photos: William Perez
Ju Hong looked tired. Uncharacteristic stubble peppered his chin and there were shadows under his eyes when we met at a Temescal coffee shop. But then again, he’d had a crazy week. Most Cal students spend the warmer months taking summer courses, doing internships or catching up with hometown friends and family. Hong, an ASUC senator-elect and political science major, spent time in jail.

Police arrested 21-year-old Hong and six other undocumented student activists for blocking a major street at a July 12 San Bernardino immigration rally. They were released 12 hours later, but might now be at risk for deportation. An ICE agent told the activists they might be ordered to an immigration court hearing in a few weeks, Hong said.

The act of civil disobedience was meant to empower undocumented youth and protest immigrant mistreatment, Hong wrote in a public statement. Among the central issues at the rally was support for the California Dream Act, which would enable undocumented students to qualify for state-administered financial-aid programs. Part of the bill was signed into law on July 25 by Governor Jerry Brown.

Hong has watched undocumented friends forced to take time off school to save enough money to pay rising tuition fees. Some even had to drop out altogether because college was too costly without financial aid. Other undocumented students have been arrested and deported. There are too many stories, Hong said, including his own.

“This is my last year at Cal. After I graduate, now what? Even with a degree from UC Berkeley, I cannot legally work,” Hong said.

“Ju’s been so tired of the situation,” said Lisa Chen, Asian Law Caucus community advocate. “He needed to do something, and this is what he felt like he needed to do. So when he called to tell me he planned on getting arrested, I was not at all surprised. It was only a matter of when, not if.”

Hong said that the Dream Act movement is growing, “And I want to push a little bit more.”

Before the activism

Hong came to the United States with his mother and older sister when he was 11. Family friends met the new arrivals at SFO and took them to the Union Square Cheesecake Factory. The eighth-story view of the city bewildered Hong.

“I couldn’t eat at all,” he said. “Everything was big. There were so many white people, black people. In Korea, everybody’s Korean, they all speak Korean, the culture is the same. So it was such a new experience for me. Everything was so busy. Oh my goodness, everything was so overwhelming.”

Hong adjusted soon enough. He later attended Alameda High. He ran cross country and played on the basketball, volleyball and rugby teams.

Ju Hong during the San Bernardino rally
Tin Tran, Hong’s best friend, said Hong has always been a very outgoing and friendly person. “He has this willingness to talk and smile, laugh and make people laugh. It makes him so approachable,” Tran said.

Tran said he would hang out at Hong’s home and rarely see his friend’s family around.

Hong’s mother has two jobs. “She wakes up around 6 a.m. and comes home around 11 p.m.,” Hong said. “She does that for six days. She only gets rest on Sunday. Then she goes to church. She’s a strong woman.”

Hong’s sister, who rises at 4 a.m. and comes home at 8 p.m., also splits her time between two jobs. She left community college some years ago due to financial difficulties, and now works to support her younger brother’s education at Cal.

On the rare occasion that Tran would see Hong’s mother and sister he said, “It’s always a smile. Always hugs. It’s humbling to see that they’re really kind, even though they’re working so much. They would always offer fruit and snacks. The hospitality was off the charts. That made me feel welcomed. That drew me closer to Ju.”

As an upperclassman in Alameda, Hong buckled down on academics with an eye on getting into a good college. Hong began filling out college applications but didn’t know what to put down for his social security number. He asked his mother about it.

“That’s when she told me I didn’t have one,” Hong said. He then learned that he was undocumented. He and his family had come to the U.S. on tourist visas and stayed past expiration.

Hong didn’t know at first what being undocumented meant. He applied for college anyway and won admission to UC Davis. “I was so happy,” he said. “I was literally crying. I worked so hard. That acceptance letter showed that I deserved to go to that prestigious university.”

Tran said that only a few classmates had gotten into the school. “UC Davis was just rejecting people left and right. There was this 4.0 kid who did volunteer work and wrote a great personal statement. We were all surprised: ‘Dang, you didn’t get into UC Davis?’” Tran began to laugh. “When Ju got in, he was ecstatic.”

The celebration didn’t last. Hong said, “Even though I knew I couldn’t get a job or financial aid, my mom said, ‘If you really want to go that school, go for it. Don’t worry about the money.’”

The reality, though, was that his family couldn’t afford it, especially not without financial aid.

Back at the coffee shop, Hong held an invisible admissions envelope in his hands and stared at it as he told this story.

“So I closed the package, put it in the desk and just let it go,” he said, his hands putting the invisible envelope away, letting it go. “It was a bittersweet moment.”

Learning to be a leader

Hong enrolled at Laney College, where he eventually became both the first Asian-American and youngest student body president. (That’s how we met. I reported on the Associated Students of Laney College (ASLC) under Hong’s leadership for the Laney Tower, the student newspaper.)

Brian Cervantes, ASLC president-elect, remembers Hong as “a charismatic young man,” but reserved some criticism for Hong’s youth and inexperience. Hong was 19, serving a student population of which 57% was 25 years old or older in 2007, according to the district’s most recent data for student demographics.

Hong also served low-income students and their families; students of color from black, Latino and Asian communities and international students. “It was quite an honor,” he said, “It was a lot of pressure, too, because I’m an Asian and I’m young. So people tested me in many different ways.”

“I liked him as a kid, as a young man,” Cervantes, 39, said, “but he wasn’t ready for that type of leadership. I mean, you used to sit in those meetings and you saw how poorly ran they were. The topics we talked about didn’t have any substance, or we never came up with solutions for those problems.”

Cervantes also criticized what he saw as Hong’s single-issue focus on the Dream Act movement. “It’s admirable, but as president you have to look at the bigger picture. I was always trying to push Ju to work on the broader issues that affected all students at Laney.”

Hong said that he’s familiar with Cervantes’ honest if tough feedback — the two talked nearly every day during their time together on ASLC — and that his presidency was definitely a learning experience. Hong dealt with the broad demands of student leadership, like learning how to influence education policy, work closely with campus administration and speak to media. (“I had to talk to you,” he said, laughing, “and you always asked me tough questions.”)

All this was balanced with life as an undocumented student worker — no driver’s license, under-the-table work. “During his Laney days,” Tran said, “Ju did a lot of biking. I remember talking to him at school, seeing him walk around Laney in Oakland. That night, I would be in Berkeley. I would eat where his family’s former restaurant was, and he was there working until late.”

“In the end, I learned how to be a leader,” Hong said. He’d learned how to balance the needs of such a diverse and outspoken student population and not just the needs of the AB 540 community (AB 540, the California Immigrant Higher Education Act, allows eligible immigrant students to pay in-state tuition, but does not change their immigration or residency status or make them eligible for state or federal financial assistance). Because of this ASLC experience, Hong ran for student government again once he transferred to Cal. “I knew how much impact I could make as an ASUC senator.”

Still, Hong said, Cervantes was right. “In a way, the main reason I ran for student government was to really help out my community. I felt that we needed more API [Asian and Pacific Islander] and AB 540 representation in student government. That’s what got me into activism — the Dream Act, undocumented students and immigrant rights issues.”

Undocumented and unafraid

More undocumented students are coming out and leading the Dream Act movement, but Hong’s public participation is unusual. Undocumented APIs like Hong are generally invisible. The Contra Costa Times reported that Hong “wanted to put an Asian face to a contentious debate that often is focused on Latinos.”

Chen said it’s important to remember that Hong is one of many undocumented API youth. She works closely with ASPIRE, an undocumented API student group. According to the 2010 AB 540 UC report, 47% of the UC system’s AB 540 students identify as Asian. Of these students, 257 are potentially undocumented.

Yet others are unaccounted for. “Many undocumented students are in the community colleges and CSUs. They just don’t have that information readily available,” Chen said.

Still, the API community does not talk about its undocumented members. Chen said, “There’s a lot of shame and stigma that has a lot to do with how the story of being undocumented is talked about. A lot of ASPIRE students say that only fellow group members know about their status. Culturally, we’re just taught to keep family business to ourselves.”

Ju Hong during the sit-in before the arrests on July 12.
Hong said that he’s different than other Asian undocumented students: “I was raised by a single mother. She always worked, so I didn’t have much supervision. Even though she doesn’t want me to speak out, she’s not always there to tell me what to do. With my own space, I could do things that I really wanted.”

Hong used that space to research AB 540 and the Dream Act. He contacted organizations like ASPIRE, got involved and learned more about the issues. At Laney, he began giving AB 540 workshops. He bought hundreds of copies of Underground Undergrads and resold them on campus as a fundraiser. He came out as undocumented on YouTube.

“And then the arrest happened. It’s a crazy thing,” he said. “It’s a process. It took me a couple of years to get to where I am right now.”

Risking deportation

On July 12, Hong rallied with fellow Dream Act activists at San Bernardino Valley College. About 200 people were there. The participants chanted, shared their testimonies and took to the streets.

“As soon as the police came, we sat down.” Seven activists, Hong among them, sat on a large poster with the words, “We will no longer be silent,” and, “No SB 1070,” protesting Arizona’s notorious anti-illegal immigration law. About 20 police surrounded the activists and arrested them.

Hong and his friends were in jail for 12 hours. “We didn’t know how long we were going to stay there,” he said. “There was no clock. The lights were on. We didn’t know if it was morning or at night or anything like that.”

Hong said he felt scared. “We were arrested, handcuffed. I knew there is a risk. I might get sent to an ICE detention center. There was no guarantee that I’d get out.”

But a lot of people on the outside supported him. He had six fellow activists with him, too, and they’d begun chanting, “Isang Bagsak!” Hong writes in his public statement that this Filipino unity cry (“one down, one fall!”) means standing together and fighting for justice.

“By the time they were chanting, ‘Isang Bagsak,’ we were very strong. I wasn’t scared at all after that,” he said.

Tran said he was scared for his friend, though. “The first thing that comes to mind is his well-being. What was comforting was he was doing it for the right purpose, the right cause. He’s sacrificing his well-being for the undocumented community. I can say, ‘I may not like that you’re doing this, but at the end of the day I support you and your purpose.’”

Hong had planned his act of civil disobedience two months in advance but didn’t tell his mother until two days before. “The thing I worried about most was how I was going to tell my mom,” he said. “That’s what stressed me out most. Getting arrested, that was least important.”

Hong told his mother over the phone because he was already in southern California. “She started crying,” he said. “She was worried. But at the end of the conversation, she was very supportive. And she prayed for me on the phone.”

In a few weeks, Hong will find out whether or not he will be ordered to an immigration court hearing and begin the deportation process. “The waiting game is psychologically stressful,” he said.

Hong said he has to be mentally prepared for anything. Fall classes at Cal will be starting up soon. There, he’ll continue working toward a future that would include working as an immigrant rights organizer, going to law school then beginning a career as an immigration attorney. Or, if he gets deported, he has to start a new life in South Korea.

“I’d have to serve two years in the army. I haven’t been to Korea in 10 years, so I don’t know what the heck is going on there,” he said.

Cervantes said he remembered Hong always working under the assumption that the Dream Act would pass. “I was raised in Texas. I’m not conservative, but I’d always tell him, ‘These are the type of people you’re fighting against.’”

Cervantes said he’d feel bad if Hong was deported. “I wish him luck. Hopefully the decision that he made doesn’t come back and hurt him and his family. That’s a hard decision to make. I don’t wish him to be deported. I think he’s an effective member of society. I don’t even think he drinks. He’s always been involved in school and doing stuff.”

Tran tries not to talk about deportation with Hong. “We remain optimistic,” Tran said, “but if Ju were to leave, it would definitely be a heartbreaking experience. Words can’t describe how heartbreaking it would be. For a person of his caliber to be deported would not only be heartbreaking for me but a great loss for our community as well.”

There’s a 50-50 chance that Hong will start his deportation process, Chen said. “If he does, then he’ll fight it, just like everyone else has. And he’ll have a whole community behind him to fight it.”

Hong said that as an Asian undocumented student, it’s his duty to get the Asian community to come out of the shadows and work on the immigration rights issue.

“We have to work together,” he said. “The Dream Act will only pass when the Asian American community comes out on this issue. Also the gay community, white community, black community — support us. If the Latino community is the only one supporting this issue, it’s not going to go anywhere.”

Hong urges everyone to learn more about immigrants’ rights. “I respect whatever your stance may be, but be open,” he said. “Listen to our stories.”

Diana Arbas first reported on Ju Hong for the Laney Tower, when Hong led Laney College as ASLC president. Arbas has since transferred to Mills College, where she studies creative writing and journalism. She is currently interning at Berkeleyside.

SeanLM • 2 years ago
Good for him for having the courage to stand up for what is right. It's terrible that he could be ripped from a country he's grown up in and that has become his home, for lack of proper documentation.

Unfortunately, the anti-immigrant tide is at its high-water mark - I'm not optimistic about the Dream Act or any other kind of immigration reform. Still, we have to keep pushing.
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The Sharkey SeanLM • 2 years ago
"Good for him for having the courage to stand up for what is right. It's
terrible that he could be ripped from a country he's grown up in and
that has become his home, because his parents brought him here illegally, and he continued to live in the country illegally long after he learned what his true immigration status was."

Edited for accuracy.
He wouldn't be deported for not having the correct documentation.
He would be deported for coming to the country under false pretenses, violating the terms of his guest visa, and violating American Immigration & Customs laws.

I would like to point out that being against illegal immigration is not the same thing as being against all immigration. Many of the people I know who hold the harshest views about what should be done with illegal immigrants believe that the legal immigration process should be made much easier.

Part of the reason that anti-immigration sentiment in America is so strong right now is that our economy is still in the toilet. Job creation is lagging behind the population growth of legal American residents. It's hard to convince folks that we need to be letting more immigrants into the country when 10% of the people who are already here can't find jobs.
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SeanLM The Sharkey • 2 years ago
The Sharkey, it has never been my experience that people who are the most strongly against illegal immigration are also most in favor of making legal immigration easier, but I haven't met every American ever, so it's entirely possible that these people exist. That's good news!

Would these people support Comprehensive Immigration Reform that includes a large and easy to use guest worker program that doesn't exploit its clients, and a system for admission that allows anyone of sound mind and body, who can demonstrate they will become self-sufficient, into the country after a relatively short waiting period (say, maximum five years)? Maybe this system could also include a long-term path to citizenship for those who are interested, after they jump a few hurdles (civics classes, etc.) and pay some fees. That would be a pretty ok system! Instead, we have "wait lines" as long as a human lifespan. I personally can't fault someone who lives in an awful situation from taking her fate and those of her children into her own hands to make their lives better when the legal channels are de facto closed to her, but your mileage may vary.

It is absolutely correct that anti-immigration sentiment is higher when the economy is bad! I think this is one part emotional (looking for a scapegoat), one part fear of people sucking up taxes, and one part fear of the lump of labor fallacy. Luckily, the facts are that most immigrants (even a lot of legal ones) can't access public services, and ultimately pay more in taxes through sales tax than they receive in public goods. Similarly, immigrants raise or do not effect the wages of all Americans except...other low-skill immigrants. Which sucks for those low-skill immigrants, but I usually hear anti-immigrant sentiment from white Americans so there's some kind of mental disconnect going on.
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Slyboots • 2 years ago
His story is very sympathetic, and I wish him well. I hope he is not deported.

However, financial aid resources are strained and will only become more so. I don't see it as being "anti-immigrant" to be against the Dream Act. Rather, I see it as being pro (legal)-immigrant and pro native-born students.
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pitbullteacher Slyboots • 2 years ago
The divisiveness set in motion by the forces in power want us to be divisive. Don't blame the immigrants for the powers that be who are bringing their beliefs down onto you. Your instinct was correct the first time, it is about what is right and wrong. Don't make it about money.
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John Doe Slyboots • 4 hours ago
After seeing him heckle the President, I kind of wish he was deported.
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Greyhaired • 2 years ago
Thank you for carrying this story. As an adult trying to help young people and push for a Federal DREAM Act this gives me more energy. If Hong and his family can keep working then so can I.
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pitbullteacher Greyhaired • 2 years ago
Please fight for him, because his family can't. Hopefully he has some good friends who have his back. What is his status? I believe it was Illinois who just passed the Dream Act? We must push harder now, before he gets hurt!

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Annee • 2 years ago
This an example of why it is difficult, for some countries, to get a tourist visa to visit the USA. Many of the illegals are "over-stays" of tourist, student, biz visas.
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Lhasa7 • 2 years ago
I have never pursued formal graduate studies. Does 20 years of self-directed study since college make me an “undocumented” D.Phil. (Oxon.)? I think not.
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Jane Stillwater • 2 years ago
This is yet another example of how America wastes the skills and talents of its young. If we would teach and train our "undocumented" citizens instead, America would be a stronger and better place and we could hold our heads up in the world instead of just slowly sliding into becoming just one more mediocre country bound by prejudice and fear.
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ano11 • 2 years ago
The ground zero is that his family broke the law. All this talk and complexities of the DREAM act can be solved by just looking at the root. People broke the US law. Shouldn't they pay a price for that? You can't break the law and demand the "right" for a same education as the one's that follow the rules. There are community colleges and much cheaper options for students like him. And yea, Berkeley degree holds much more weight then a community college's associates, but oh well, too bad. If you can't afford the $40 steak, go to mcdonalds.
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Murphy999 • 2 years ago
I am now living in Thailand where there is a strong anti-bias against illegal immigrants. There are millions of hill tribe children that are born in here and they are not allowed to attend school, receive any benefits, or travel freely in the country. Police check points manned throughout the country prevents many from leaving the village. Along the borders of Burma and Thailand there are hundreds of thousands of Karen refugees living in cramped housing and many have lived and died there. The camps have been there for over 60 years.

What I am concerned about is that so many of these refugees could be re-settled in the US. Most would love to return to Burma but cannot out of concern for their safety.

I understand that racism is rearing its ugly head again in the US especially when the economy is in tatters. I have seen this so many times. Unfortunately, the US is not alone. It is happening across Europe and in Asia. Thailand has a labor shortage and there is so much exploitation against the Cambodian, Burmese, and Lao illegal immigrants. The ugly side that is happening all the the world and this includes the US is the human slavery.

We need to balance the immigration problem free from politicians using the issue from political gain.
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wendy • 6 hours ago −
After watching him disrespect president Obama speech, I feel shame for him, Is this a South Korean cultures? one advise to Ju Hong, You should go back to where you belong, because you are not even respect our president, the president who is fighting for the immigration reform and help you and allow your sister and your mom to stay here. You should go back to a totally Korean speaking and all Korean culture. In America, we have all different cultures, that's what make United States is such a great country, and currently we have a great president
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오바마, 이민개혁 연설 중 20대 한인 청년과 ‘설전’
“이민자 추방 멈춰달라” 호소에 “그걸 위해 이 자리에 있다” 진화

목록목록메일메일인쇄인쇄글씨크기 폰트 크게폰트 작게

▲ 버락 오바마(맨 앞줄) 미국 대통령이 25일(현지시간) 샌프란시스코 차이나타운에서 이민개혁 관련 연설을 하던 중 “추방을 중단하라”고 항의하는 한국인 청년(위에서 두 번째줄 오른쪽)을 쳐다보고 있다.
샌프란시스코 UPI 연합뉴스

미국 서부 지역을 방문 중인 버락 오바마 미 대통령이 25일(현지시간) 이민개혁 문제에 대해 연설하던 중 “추방을 중단하라”는 한 한인 청년의 항의에 연설을 멈추고 설전을 벌였다고 새너제이머큐리뉴스가 전했다.

오바마 대통령은 이날 샌프란시스코 차이나타운 ‘베티옹레크리에이션센터’에서 이민개혁법 통과를 촉구하는 연설을 진행했다. 단상 위 오바마 대통령의 뒤편에는 세계 각지에서 미국으로 온 이민자들이 서 있었다.

연설이 끝날 무렵 이들 가운데 서 있던 한 한국 출신 청년이 오바마 대통령을 향해 “당신의 도움이 필요하다”며 자신을 포함한 이민자 가족들이 뿔뿔이 흩어지고 있다고 소리치기 시작했다. 샌프란시스코주립대에 재학 중인 대학원생 홍주(24)씨로 확인된 이 청년은 “제발 당신의 행정 권한을 사용해서, 이 나라의 ‘서류 미비’ 이민자 1150만명 모두를 위해 당장 추방을 멈추라”고 호소했다. 그는 이어 “포괄적 이민개혁법안을 통과시켜야 한다는 것에는 동의하지만, 당신은 지금도 그들 모두를 위해 추방을 중단시킬 힘을 갖고 있다”고 주장했다.

이에 대해 오바마 대통령은 연설을 멈추고 홍씨를 쳐다보며 “사실 그렇지 않다. 그게 바로 우리가 이 자리에 있는 이유”라고 답했지만 다른 이민자들도 “추방을 멈추라”고 외치는 등 분위기는 한동안 진정되지 않았다.

진화에 나선 오바마 대통령은 “젊은이들의 열정을 존중한다. 이들은 가족을 깊이 걱정하기 때문”이라고 평가한 뒤 “고함을 치거나, 내가 법을 어겨서 마치 뭔가 할 수 있는 것처럼 행세하는 것은 쉽지만 나는 민주적 절차라는 좀 더 어려운 길을 제안하겠다.”고 강조했다.

오바마 2기 행정부의 핵심 정책인 이민개혁법은 지난 6월 상원을 통과했으나 하원을 장악한 공화당의 반대로 답보 상태다. 11살 때 어머니와 미국으로 건너온 홍씨는 자신도 서류 미비 이민자 신분으로, 이민자 권익 옹호를 위해 활동하고 있다. 홍씨는 “이는 매우 시급한 문제로, 내가 목소리를 낼 수 있는 유일한 자리였다”며 “지금 구류시설에 있어 이 자리에 올 수 없는 다른 서류 미비 학생들의 목소리를 대변한 것”이라고 말했다.

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유(柳), ユ Ju

Ju Hong
Research Assistant
San Francisco Bay Area 非営利団体

Research Assistant - Harvard University
DREAMer Advisory Committee - International Institute of the Bay Area
Outreach Coordinator - Asian Pacific American Labor Alliance (APALA)
Legislative Intern - City and County of San Francisco
Senator - Associated Students of the University of California
San Francisco State University
University of California, Berkeley
Laney College

Ju Hong Explains Heckling President Obama on Deportation, Interrupting Immigration Speech

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公開日: 2013/11/26
S.F. State student who shouted at Obama has history of gutsy protests
(Mercurynews) SAN FRANCISCO -- When organizers placed Ju Hong in a prominent position flanking President Barack Obama on Monday, they probably did not realize they were handing a high-profile lectern to one of the Bay Area's gutsiest immigration reform activists.

Emboldened by a growing immigrant youth movement and irritated by years of fruitless political talk, Hong has never been one to sit as a smiling backdrop.

So it surprised many in the nation, but not his friends, when the 24-year-old in a sharp gray blazer loudly criticized the president's inaction, forcing Obama to crane his head and defend himself.

The scene-making protest was not Hong's first, but certainly his brashest, since the South Korean immigrant emerged as a student activist at Laney College and later UC Berkeley.

Invited to the Chinatown speech as a member of the "Dreamer" movement of young people brought to the country illegally as children, Hong said he "was there just to listen" but ended up being asked by a friend to stand in a group behind Obama. He grew annoyed as he heard the president blaming Congress for stalling immigration reform.

"Usually we're supposed to be props," Hong said. "I was shaking a little bit, but thinking about me and my family and my community and my friends, the pain they have suffered under the Obama administration ... it really sparked a buildup of my anger, it made me speak out."

Flown to the United States by his mother when he was 11, Hong adjusted quickly to American life. He played basketball, ran cross country and earned high grades at Alameda High School, but never knew about his family's immigration status until he was preparing for college. The more he learned about immigration policy, the more he grew frustrated by the politics surrounding it.

Even as the youth movement of which he was a part elicited growing sympathy, Hong grew concerned that others -- such as his mother and sister -- would be left behind.

"Looking at my mother, sacrificing her time and energy just to support my education, it was heartbreaking for me. I became a little bit angry. I couldn't wait for politicians to just talk," Hong told this newspaper three years ago.

Hong was one of six protesters arrested in August for interrupting the UC Board of Regents as it approved former Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano as the new UC president. Hong's message there was similar. He derided Napolitano as the chief enforcer of policies that have deported nearly 2 million people during the Obama presidency.

And in 2011, Hong was jailed and risked deportation when he and other activists blocked a street in San Bernardino during an immigration rally protesting the partnerships between local police and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Like many Asian immigrants in the country illegally, Hong and his mother and sister all entered the country on tourist visas that expired soon after they arrived. Hong, however, now has a work permit, driver's license and cannot be deported because of the Obama administration's order last year granting a reprieve to young immigrants like him. He is now pursing a master's in public administration at San Francisco State. His sister and mother remain at risk.

"Ju is considered one of the leaders, one of the promising young leaders ... of the undocumented community in general," said activist and journalist Jose Antonio Vargas, who revealed his own illegal immigration status in The New York Times Magazine in 2011.

"If I had been there, I may have just done the same thing," Vargas said. "Two million people (deported), for many people that's an abstract number. For us, this is a reality."

by Krsna Avila, Ju Hong, & Beto

I wanna be a citizen so fucking bad
Buy all of the things I never had
I wanna be on the cover of TIMES magazine
Smiling next to Jose and the DREAMs

Oh, every time I close my eyes
I see my name in shinny cards
Ah, different country every night
Oh, I swear the world better prepare
Cuz' I'm a citizen

The homie Ju wants to be a U.S. Citizen
Cuz he trippin on this life that he be living in
For his green card, saving all his dividends
Wants a better life for his kin and him

Wants the sweet life, that's word to Zack and Cody
Undocumented, Unafraid. he ain't ever low key
My bro be reppin hard for all the DREAMers
UC Berkeley R.I.S.E., that's the team huh?

Bleeding blue and gold, stories never told
Now they unfold, so bold when he steps to break the mold
Taking over streets, ain't afraid to swing back
He ain't gonna stop 'til they pass the dream act

Oh, every time I close my eyes
I see my name in shinny cards
Ah, different country every night
Oh, I swear the world better prepare
Cuz' I'm a citizen

Oh oh, oh oh, yeah I'm a citizen
Oh oh, oh oh, yeah I'm a citizen

I got my green card, educated we smart
Fighting real hard, till' the DREAM reach us

Let me take you to a place of insanity
Once told me I don't belong but I did my thing

And I struggled, struggled
But I hustled, hustled
Till' they gave me my rights, but it's far from over

Deception isn't key, that's what they told me
Don't forget about your past cuz' your present's never lonely

I disobeyed the law for the better right
3 days in jail but I freed my mind

Fist up high, screaming with my amigos
If you didn't know, we're the mighty, mighty DREAMers!

I wanna be a citizen so fucking bad
Buy all of the things I never had
I wanna be on the cover of TIMES magazine
Smiling next to Jose and the DREAMs

Oh, every time I close my eyes
I see my name in shinny cards
Ah, different country every night
Oh, I swear the world better prepare
Cuz' I'm a citizen

i guess he has plastic surgery to his north and eyes.
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Ju Hong, UC Berkeley Undocumented Student south Korean
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I Wanna be a Citizen - Krsna Avila, Ju Hong, Beto

Ju Hong, you should enter the US army, work as a US citizen soldier with the risk of your life in Iraq.
or go back to your mother country Korea,you have the responsibility as korean citizen, 4 year military draft.
you should do your duties, listening and quiet well in someone's speech, later you will have the right to require.